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CigaretteMoney081805.gifDane101 has treaded lightly on the smoking ban. For one reason, many of the contributors spend time on the Daily Page Forum and have been burned out by the ongoing discussion that seems to get tied to every aspect of Madison politics. Conceal and carry = smoking ban. Lobbying = smoking ban. Bill and his Red Pumps are having a show at the Neutron Bar this Friday = smoking ban. I had a nice visit to the children's museum yesterday = smoking ban. It seems to have died down, but really, for a while there it was getting silly.

When we did touch on it, we used it as a jumping point for the more important issue of micromeddling by the Republican controlled legislature. More specifically the regressive "Smoke Free Dining Act"

We did take a trip up to the smoke free city of Minneapolis to see how the ban was affecting things there. But honestly, we didn't learn much. We briefly stepped in it when Matt wrote about the closing of Lot 20 (wasn't that fun?).

But now it appears that the issue won't be going away anytime soon. As written up by the Isthmus's new cub reporter, Kristian Knutson, on his Daily Page blog, a rally matching the size of yesterday's Solidarity Vigil was held on the steps of city hall Wednesday.

In a separate editorial, Knutson paints a picture of supporters of the ban as appearing out of touch by spending the "ban the ban" rally at the expensive Ocean Grill. He then pontificates that the presence of local right-wing talk show hack Vicky McKenna at the rally is a sign that conservatives have "breached the backlash barrier." He suggests that conservatives are harnessing the anger of smokers and will use that anger to boost the stigma of the Madison liberal "elite."

What he fails to address is how many of the smokers at the rally even 1) know who Vicky McKenna is? 2) See her as anything more then a fleshy Republican talking point?

There is also the question of how many of those smokers supported the increase in the minimum wage? What is more important, being able to smoke in bars or being able to afford the pack of cigarettes you can't smoke in bars?

What hurts wait staff more? Not getting a solid wage increase? Or second-hand smoke?

However, he is accurate in saying that there is a disconnect between the city council and the citizenry. Both issues - the living wage and the smoking ban - should have been put to a referendum. The people should have been given the opportunity to make those life decisions, not only would it have deflated attempts at characterizing Madison leadership as out-of-touch with the rest of the state, it would have reduced the impact of conservatives who have forgotten the core values of their party and are calling for a concentration of power.

On that note, here is what some others are saying about the rally and the ban in general:

Lisa S. asks on her blog "Madison: Go West and Turn Left":

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So, what is it? Is it about public health? Economics? Worplace safety? Business? Personal freedom? Property rights? What are the effects of second hand smoke? Is a compromise conceivable? Is there a referendum on the horizon? It all depends upon whom you ask.

Over on CFUCT, after slapping around some of the more absurd pro-smoking people Phil says:

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With that all out of the way, I’d still love to see the ordinance amended to allow smoking after 10pm or if 75% of sales are alcohol/tobacco based. I miss smoking next to my pitcher, but not enough to equate anti-smokers with genocide, abandon my favorite dives, or form a disingenuous business front group.

After equating some of the more absurd anti-smoking people to Health Uber alles Jihadists, Random10 suggests Madison ban tattoo parlors (tongue-in-cheek):

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It is time to BAN Tattoo Parlors in Madison. I’m sure a phone poll could prove that 85% of residents don’t go get inked and majority always rules. If the parlor owners don’t like the BAN, well to bad. If you can’t make a living without stabbing people with needles, you suck!

Forward Our Motto suggests that maybe all of this energy could be better suited by maybe...promoting your business?:

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The focus should be on promotion of business and how to get business back up WITH the smoking ban. After all, Madison didn't invent the smoking ban, smoking is being banned in bars all over the place. This is simply a trend, like banning smoking in the schools and in many workplaces.

Reif over at Notes From the Underground makes a brilliant analysis of the true reason behind the proposed advisory referendum:

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Van Rooy and his cohorts are getting around this by taking a page from Sun Tzu. They are passing a hardship clause along with the advisory referendum.

In chapter three of his Art of War, Sun Tzu tells us that, “the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans,” and that, “the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces.”

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1) Considering the truck she was broadcasting atop was doing brisk sales in t-shirts, and that before the rally began her broadcast was amplified to the assembling crowd from loudspeakers, it is fair to say that nearly everybody there was at least aware of her presence. I would guess most know who she is, as well -- a vocal ordinance opponent with a significant media platform.

2) That's a tougher question, though I would guess that there were people there who would and would not agree with that characterization.

Those questions are largely moot, though. She's still getting attention, clearly trying to emulate the influence in Milwaukee of C. Sykes. It doesn't matter if some people at the rally didn't care for her, she's still changing the tenor of local political debate with a 5000 watt transmitter, which was my ultimate point.

The point is that local movement conservatives are jumping on this bandwagon in order to promulgate their talking point that some sort of mythical "elite" is oppressing some sort of mythical "masses" -- Thomas Frank's Kansas argument. I did and do not say there is any sort of "disconnect between the city council and the citizenry," I am saying that there are various persons using the ordinance to try to paint such a picture.

The question about the minimum wage vs. the ordinance is a good one, seeing some data would be nice.

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